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Darbydoo

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Hi all. I'm having trouble with golden/ copper tones In my highlighted blonde hair.

I have used the colour restore toner and found it Helped for a few days, but found it made my otherwise light blonde hair (the bleached bits) a bit too ashy.

I had my highlights done again last week at a new salon and stressed that I wanted creamy tones with nothing golden/ copper. My hairdresser used bleach and then 911 majiblond, which is meant to be a light ash colour I believe. However, this 911 colour seems To have gone a bit coppery in places again.

This is really annoying me now. I'm getting married in march so just want my colour to be right

Any help appreciated. Thanks
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May I add that the majiblond wasn't added on top of the bleach, but rather as a second colour in my
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Hi ya, sorry I don't have the answer but I'm in a similar predicament. I had bright red hair used Decolour remover them waited a week put a light brown base it looked ok, then highlighted it looks nice but the roots are some of the hair (unhighlighted ones) are gingery too I want these to be more ashy but my hair will go green if I Put ash on it as it has the highlights , I have used the platinum toner by Scott Cornwall but its not helping with the ginger base. I have today bought John freida colour renew to tone down brassy but I think it won't help the ginger tones......
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Hi there,

Gingery tones in hair can be a bit of a can of worms because if the hair is highlighted there is a lot of the original base shade still in there, so every time you try to resolve one amount of ginger (with a permanent colour), the permanent colour resolves this in the previous ginger areas but then lightens new areas of the previously natural hair and kicks up more warmth.

In general, if you find ash tones too heavy the best tone to opt for (in lightening shades) is beige, as this will create a neutral blonde in hair that is prone to going warm.  If you are having highlights done in a salon the secondary best method (for foils) is what I refer to as 'high neutral', here you have an ash highlight next to a gold highlight (so if your hair is prone to kicking up warmth you just use a non tone highlight tint or lightener to get a golden blonde).  When you have an ash highlight next to a gold highlight the two tones intermix on the head and neutralise each other out - so it produces a very specific blonde look.  The most famous high neutral is Jennifer Aniston back in her friends days (she much more of general blonde now).

However, if you are suffering from gingery tones now the problem you have is the hair has basically not lightened enough.  The best remedy for this is to try and lift through it.  In my experience of dealing with annoying ginger tones with client colour work I found the best was to literally highlight it out to create a balance in the hair.  The problem with Majiblonde shades is they aren't able to lift enough if the hair is showing that degree of warmth.   The method I always found the best way to work with was something I would call camouflaging.    With this method you use a conditioning lightening product such as 'Loreal Platinium Paste' and weave out foils with this lightener across the head.  Platinium retains the hairs lipid levels so (unlike a traditional bleach) it won't cause the hair to dry out, but will give very good lift.  Once those foil highlights have lifted up to a pale blonde they are rinsed off and the hair is towel dried - you then apply a true tone on tone colourant such as Wella Colour Touch throughout the hair, but use a 9 base and beige tone, this then creates a highly neutral blonde that has a rich lustre to it.   If I'd want to create very creamy blonde I would use this same method but camouflage with L'Oreal Diacolors Frosted Milkshake.  This particular shade produces the most fantastic cream blonde on bleached and newly highlighted hair.  Using the Camouflage method (after highlighting with a product like Platinium) will produce a permanently toned blonde result.

For controlling the issues now, I'd say both of you need to get some more blonde highlights added to the hair - but only use a gentle bleach to do this.  You then use a product such as Colour Restore Iced Platinum and you should find this creates a natural cool effect.  CR Cool Ash would deliver ash tones to blonde bases.

A secondary tip is asking your hairdresser to apply an 8.1 (light ash blonde) lowlight using only 2% developer into the hair against a new bleach highlight (which you later tone with Iced Platinum).  The 50/50 ratio of the slightly darker ash low light against the pure clear blonde highlight will also give you a better result.

As I said though, it is initially just worth try Colour Restore Iced Platinum as I think this could do the trick.  Kind Regards Scott

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Hi Scott, you don't understand how helpful you are, how must depth you put into your answers, I along with many other really really appreciate the time you have taken to reply to us with such a good detailed in depth answer it makes lots of sense. If I was rich I'd have you as my personal hairdresser

This is my hairline - without the warmth the highlights looks ok ish - the cap made it not go close enough to the roots though so it looks like I have ginger re growth ! I'm trying toads a picture
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Hi,

I can't see your photo you can insert a photo by clicking on the tree image next to the film reel image.  You can also do the 'attach files' under the post a poll option.

I'm happy to give advice and help where I can, that's why I started the forum as I never had enough space on Facebook to say everything, plus people couldn't join in so much and share their own experiences.

If you used something like a Magicap, you should blast a low warm setting from a hairdryer into it before you put the cap on, this way it will soften around your head and not ride up.  If you did this you could go back and pull the hair through again and only apply the lightener to the regrowth areas to lift them up a little more.

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Thanks Scott. I will have to show this to my hairdresser as I don't really understand it having never coloured my own hair.

I've attached a picture to show you what I mean (excuse the silly pose!). The tones I am talking about are mostly towards the top. I have tried the iced platinum toner, but it has unfortunately turned the orangey bits just a darker shade of orange.

The bleach achieves a nice colour in my hair without the need for toner, so should I perhaps ask for all over bleach highlights? Ideally though I would like a darker tone going through too, like a creamy light brown - any suggestions?

Thanks [smile]

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Hi there, I can't see your photo.  Could you re-attach it?
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For some reason I think the image uploader is compressing my image to a tiny size.  Shall I send it via facebook? many thanks
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Hi There,

That isn't really a bad shade at all. I would say your hair just needs to be highlighted with a lightest beige blonde in the future.  You are right, ash would be too heavy for your depth, so if you ask your salon to use a high lifting tint that has something like a .7 in it's descriptive you should find it goes to a more creamy blonde.

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Thanks. I have had my hair done again this week, mostly bleach with a koleston 7/7 used as a few tonal lowlights. It has thankfully banished the red tones but unfortunately a little bit dark. When hair colour is washed out, would it be possible that the brown in the koleston can seep into freshly bleached hair? In which case a few washes should sort it?

I will ask for a lighter beige blonde as the second colour next time, but wondered what to do in the meantime. If you're familiar with the wella koleston colours, can you suggest a suitable shade? This is the only range stocked in the salon I believe.

Thanks!
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Hi Darby,  you shouldn't see bleeding of the Koleston shade onto the bleached.

If you want the salon to do a creamier blonde (using Koleston), suggest they try to use their Blondor non ammonia lightener in foil packets to create the highlight.   Then when you are at the backwash, tell them to mix up some 9.17 with 3% peroxide and apply through the hair.  What this will do is create a creamy cool highlight that will intermix with the rest of the hair.  If you are saying the base is too dark, it means the hair needs more highlights in it.  If you opt for a lighter base shade, your warmth will begin showing through again.   So the key is to keep a deeper base shade (7.7 is a good option) and get the lifted overall shade from a cool highlight.  When the two shades mix together it will create a cool medium blonde base.


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Hi Scott. I went to a different salon yesterday who suggested the 'camouflage' technique you mentioned above, using platinium bleach foils all over followed by a dialight toner. What are your thoughts on this? Would it produce a nice light blonde do you think? Who's colour would this be comparable to in celeb world? Thanks [smile]
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